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<p>Talk about how to exchange ideas and to work together</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>This is a try to use this wiki.<br /> <br /> A question: As yahoo sokoban group is the center of sokoban player, Is here the center of soko programmer?<br /> Specially, do all the soko-opimizer programmers( Brian Damgaard, Matthias Meger, me) and advisor (Minglw) try to use this as &quot;information center&quot;? If there already exist a mail list, I can join that.<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello Ge Yong!<br /> It&#039;s great that you have &quot;joined&quot; this Wiki. The purpose of this Wiki is to provide a platform offering all information about Sokoban. There is a great article about the features of the common Sokoban programs, links to other sites, ...<br /> <br /> It would be great if this Wiki became the center of soko programmers. Brian Damgaard and me we have a lot of mail correspondence. It&#039;s great to have someone for talking about ideas, algorithms, ... around Sokoban. Putting new ideas to working code is a lot easier when you work in a team. Therefore I hope we can work together on topics like solvers, optimizers, ...<br /> Yet, there doesn&#039;t exist any mail list. However, we can create one if needed. <br /> I think the advantages of the Wiki are:<br /> # the information are public available (I know that some &quot;non programmers&quot; also want to read the information and make suggestions)<br /> # the information can be structured and corrected by every registered person<br /> # it&#039;s possible to use images, style formats (bold text, colored text, ...)<br /> <br /> Of course, there are also disadvantages:&lt;br&gt;<br /> # mails come one after the other. In the Wiki everybody can change everywhere. Therefore it&#039;s more difficult to stay up to date (what has changed, which new information have been added, ...)<br /> # the Wiki is public, that means every one in the internet can read it. Unfortunately, some programmers want to keep their ideas secret. However, it&#039;s unlikely that they they would join the mail list, either.<br /> # there is no notification when something has changed articles in the Wiki<br /> <br /> There surely are more advantages / disadvantages. <br /> Depending on how many programmers want to take part and how many posts will be made / how many mails will be sent we will see what will be the best.<br /> <br /> I haven&#039;t asked Minglw, yet. However, I hope we can convince many people to use this as &quot;information center&quot;.<br /> <br /> What are the topics you are interested in ?<br /> Personally, I think about:<br /> # optimizer<br /> # solver<br /> # deadlock detection<br /> # packing order algorithms<br /> # general things (how to calculate the reachable player squares, how to store the board positions in a hash table, ...)<br /> <br /> As soon as I will have some time I will continue writing new articles and completing the existing ones.<br /> <br /> - Matthias</div>

Matthias Meger